That was the title of my lecture at East Anglia University, but the controversy had already started before I even arrived.
The I.soc amir Kalleemullah phoned in something short of a panic, expressing his concern over my speech and its contents, explaining how they had been working for some time on their activities and Islamic awareness on campus. I don't like being put in a corner and having restrictions put on what I can and can't say, but the dean of the University had sent him an email and I asked him to forward that, and would I respond.
The dean wrote:
..... On another matter, I have heard that there has been an anonymous
complaint that Abdur Raheem Green may be someone who promotes positions
against homosexuality and other matters that would not be in accordance with
our policy on equal opportunities. These complaints may not be
justified, and in general I do not respond to anonymous complaints but I
have noted that he was recently prevented from entering Australia on a
public speaking tour.
I know that you, as I am, are trying to help promote greater
understanding and tolerance of Islaam, and in that spirit I would like
the Islamic Society's reassurance that the talk to be delivered by Abdur
Raheem Green on 1 June at UEA will be respectful of the principals of
equality and equity of this university and of our commitment to allow
those of diverse faiths and lifestyles to live together in an atmosphere
of mutual respect and tolerance.
Best wishes
Annie
That seemed all quite reasonable, and perfectly polite so I wont include Kaleemullah's lengthy appeal, but here is my response:
Thank you for informing me about the dean's concerns.
Please reassure the dean that although I may hold views on certain issues that are normal for orthodox adherents of traditional religions, I encourage all Muslims to abide by the laws of the counties where they live and to promote a good and true image of Islam.
That is what I hope to achieve through my lectures also.
As for my being prevented from entering Australia, I should make it clear in my defense that press told clear lies about the nature of the lectures I was to be delivering, and twisted certain things that I had written out of context. In fact the whole controversy, I have been lead to understand, was initiated by a Muslim parliamentarian who belongs to a cultish sect about who I had in the past made some criticisms.
I hope this goes someway to alleviate any concerns the dean my have and reassure the dean that I will fully respect the atmosphere of mutual respect and tolerance.
yours in Isalm
East Anglia University is a listed building, or rather a complex of listed buildings, a classic example of monstrous concrete architecture, preserved presumably for posterity so no-one should make the same mistake again! Actually, I quite like it. There is something almost purposely grim about it, that is refreshingly stark and real, reflecting an altogether more pessimistic view of the world. I suppose one day it might look "old and grand", but I doubt it!
Normally any visit by me to Norwich would entail a diversion via Thetford forest to ride the excellent mountain biking trails there, but I didn't have that much time, and anyway I had just completed a grueling 15km route in Bedgbury forest with some of my kids, that entailed pushing my 7 year old daughter's bike (as well as mine) up the worst hills. So no great loss. The drive is quite scenic through some classic English landscapes. Passing through a village called Elveden I had images of Hobbits and Elves and the Lord of the Rings, and the scenes and places that must have inspired Tolkien to write his masterpiece.
On arrival at the University I am greeted by Kaleemullah and the Muslim Chaplain, Masoud Gadir. I raise and inquiring eyebrow at this title, but before I can say anything he tells me "Don't ask! Its a long story!"
Anyway, I'm taken for a coffee and am told about the trials of the Islamic Society. He seems really worried about what I am going to say, and I listen and try to be reassuring.
The talk is quite well attended by Muslims and non-Muslims, including a member of the Police force.
Afterwards the Muslim chaplain is delighted. "Better than I could even have imagined!"
We go the prayer room, and are given a sumptuous dinner, and I talk to Jack, who is studying Philosophy, heads the debating society, and is member of the Green party. At the moment he calls himself a Buddhist, but is very interested in Islam. He prays with us. Shortly afterward I leave and head home through the night.
I've been inited for the Islamic Week in October. Hey, maybe I'll even get to ride those trails then! Inshallah.
You can download the lecture here.
And listen here.


As Salamalaikum ARG, I was just wondering what is the name of the cult-like group which that parliamentarian belongs to? This also got me thinking about the various groups in Islam and where the boundaries are i.e some people do not accept following a madhab, also 'ahl sunnah wal jamah' is, I read considered as a madhab?? Also some groups in shiaism and sufism are not too far out in their beliefs and cannot be considered to be taken out of the fold of Islam.
I was called a muhammadan by a patient and when I explained 'no i'm a muslim' he went on about governments trying to cause people to fight each other... Last time I read the term 'muhammandan' was in a book published in the 1920's.
All this can become really confusing and I recall hearing somewhere that one punishment from Allah swt is taking away the knowledgable people from the world.
Have you written about this topic or done a lecture about this, if so please provide the links.
Just when one jihad is over another begins, everyone claims to have authentic knowledge!
Waranga
ARG comment:
Inshallah, I do hope that soon there will be more lectures available on my other site www.islamsgreen.com. I do have some lectures along those lines, that might help to clarify some issues.
Of course everyone claims to have authentic knowledge, but as I advised someone recently, if you know the Book and Sunnah you will know the people of the Book and Sunnah. That's why its so important to pick up the Quran and read it to understand it, and Bukhari and Muslim.
This is indeed a jihad.
As for the cult/sect, this individual is a professed member of the Naqshbani sufi order. No a cult/sect exactly, but there are some "Sheikhs" who are in fact no more than that.
Now that's wierd, someone still using the term Mohammedan, he probably calls people of colour Gollywogs and Fuzzywuzzies, and when he sees Phillipinos he talks about the Yellow Peril!
Posted by: Waranga | Monday, 12 June 2006 at 19:03
ARG: I think I said something more like 'If I had to call myself anything I'd say I'm most like a Buddhist'- but I don't actually call myself a Buddhist, or if I do I mean it in the sense that 'everyone is a Buddhist' i.e. we're all the same.
Don't Muslims say a similar thing? 'Everyone is a Muslim', but they haven't realised or understood it yet, etc?
ARG comment: Thanks for the correction, and appologies for the mistake. Everyone submits to Allah to some extent, so we all have the potential, but I think that both Buddhism and Islam share the understanding that finding and then acting on truth takes dedication and commitment. It's a concious decision not an accident of bith or happenstance! Some do not even try to find truth, others go as far as fighting it, and hate truth! Are these two like each other? I think not.
Posted by: Jack | Saturday, 17 June 2006 at 14:33
Yes, I agree with what you're saying ref it's a conscious decision not an accident of birth or happenstance.
It is the commitment to truth that is important, and that, in essence, is the same for everyone since the truth is the same truth.
Posted by: Jack | Wednesday, 21 June 2006 at 16:39
"It is the commitment to truth that is important, and that, in essence, is the same for everyone since the truth is the same truth."
Hi Jack!
That was a very interesting statement you make about 'truth' being the same truth. Personally, I do believe in an absolute, universal, all-encompassing truth that exists whether we want to believe it or not...but there's the age-old argument (usually used by glorified philosophers) that it is subjective/non existant/'a comfortable illusion' yadda yadda ya..
I was talking to some members of the Christian Society at uni last year- and I bought up the points that we were all monothiests to which I was told we don't actually worship the SAME god. I (in all my naivety) was all 'huh? But there is only 1 god' to which I was asked whether I believed Jesus (as) WAS God- which I didn't/don't- and so was told by definition our Lord is not the same Lord- bit of a mind boggler, no?
Posted by: Zimarina | Tuesday, 27 June 2006 at 00:36
Assalamualaikum dear sir!! I am an indian who was motivated by your lectures to the truth! May Allah reward u with paradise. I love u............and just imagine how much i would hav loved Mohammed p.b.u.h if he was to be present in front of my eyes!! Just his history makes my tears flow........but lack of knowledge always brings doubts to my heart! I have many problems living in a completley blind society. I'm 18 now and just get carried away with the society in that i jst cant stop staring at girls around who stare at me!! I hav moments wen i feel i'm very close to Allah on the right path but some times i hav many doubts in my heart! Some times i know what the truth is but just dont know why find it difficult to take it as a belief. I fear that Allah may increase my disease for my disobedience. I'm in a college where it is difficult for me to avoid looking at girls as i need to talk to them as i m the class representative. Please help me out with some good advice which may help me out of this problem. I was very greatly helped by the lectures of Dr.Bilal philips. I very often go online and try to hear leactures by various scholars. I love Anwar Al-Awlaki and Jaffer Idris. The problem is i'm gettin equiped with lots of good knowledge but not able to implement all the times. When i'm in college, i'm lost but when i'm back in my room i cry unto Allah for his help and just keep reading Qur'an to understand my purpose of life and to understand the truth better!! Please help me with a good advice. please find some time to reply. I'l keep waitin for ur reply.
ARGcoment: May dear brother, I strongly recommend you with what the Propeht saws recommended you with, to get married!! This will guard you eyes and your private parts. If you really cannot do this, then fast alot. I recommend fasting every other day. May Allah help you and prtect you from fitna. Ameen.
Posted by: Noamaan Mohammed Khan | Sunday, 27 April 2008 at 16:33